can i mix polymeric sand with pea gravel

You can do it. Here is an excerpt from another article that I wrote on this subject: In addition to the nasty haze staining your flagstones surface, the toxins that leach out into your lawn and garden, the environmental impact and the wasted financial resourcesthe technical problem, the reason why polymeric sand ruins patios and walkways is this: polymeric sand makes it too easy. Sweeping dg into the joints again, because some voids will have appeared after the first hose down, then hosing down again. https://images.homedepot-static.com/productImages/8f8e41ef-21f0-4fba-beda-fcb652335ff0/svn/quikrete-masonry-mortar-mix-a003a-64_1000.jpg. Joints are all tight at and average of about 1/2 to 3/4 inch in width. Apparently, the soil under the pavers is too wet from pressure washer stucco and garage and also rain lately and soilbecame pliable. I'm excited because I can do a number of project now. and it will still look natural. It became the neighborhood cat litter box yuck! White screenings are made from limestoneand crushed limestone has a bad name, in the hardscaping industry, because it tends to hold water. Ahhh, it is grande indeed. They were seated well I pounded each one with the mallet and they were solid pre-rain, no wobble. If not, then Id grab my oxygen/acetylene torch. Should we scrape all screening, organic material and weeds? I did not want to mention this optionbecause I do not like it. Yea, buy a few brick, cut them, do it right. I cant recommend a particular company as Ive only stalled the stuff a couple of times. Theres environmental impact happening. Hello, I apologize if this has already been answered. Would appreciate your thoughts! I can say without reservation that you should repair the flagstone patio that you haveand never replace it with stamped concrete. I thank you so very much. Finally, polymeric sand is an acrylic product. The recommended base layer is #3 or #57 crushed stone. Either pour or sprinkle the binding solution over the pea gravel in even and light layers. To be fair Ive seen exceptions! If the project is large enough to catch my interest financially, or artistically interestingfly me out! We have an existing flagstone patio which was built on a layer of crushed limestone with the same in between the flagstones. You will have to reapply at some point. They didnt just turn to slosh. Screenings are crushed stone. Sorry, never used it! * This works better with tight joints. You can purchase products like EasiHold or Gravel-Lok, or other epoxy coatings. Placing a border around the perimeter of pea gravel paths and walkways is one of the best ways to stabilize pea gravel. Like 1 and a half feet wide would do itget all the way down to only one foot wide (surface area) at that thin, and it will wobble. He hosed and tamped the joints a couple of times, and Ive hosed them a couple more times since. Would this work? Keep your flagstone joints tight! No freeze-thaw issues. Or pull up some layer of sand and put screening in? Pea gravel is a great material for all sorts of yard projects. Thank you. Weve been building an Idaho quartz stone (2.5 d medium & smaller size flag stones) patio. But I would toss it together with stone dust, mixing the two, and consider it an acceptable joint material, so lang as its at least half stone dust/screenings and so long as its mixed fairly well. I appreciate the advice. I do not recommend poly sand. Hey, I just remembered, d-limonene (an extract of orange peels, and an all natural solvent) happens to be something that you need to be careful around plastics with, as it may dissolve them. My husband who is a builder always goes to the product, which i always talk him out of, but cement is one that I cant seem to stop him from. I was planning on Breeze but hear it will be tracked into the house and wash away. Your work looks great! The stones have large gaps between them and weeds are taking over. 2. Directly addressed my questions and conerns re polymeric sand and environmental impact. (Note: I am not a professional, but love to DYI landscape). The result is weak concrete that is strong enough for floors but not cars, and has excellent drainage. OR, maybe fit small pieces of stone in, laid upright/on edge. But the real complaint that I have against this gravel glue epoxy whatever were talking about, the real complaint is that it just does not look good. It also creates a creamier, stickier mix that a lot of guys prefer. In Colorado, I believe they are sold as crusher fines. Life happens. Anyway, Id re-fit the stones. Just an aesthetic issue. Possibly free too, if you have gravel onsite. Having decades of experience, I can make this type of material workby fitting them tight, malleting them into their bedding material, maybe using some of the smaller ones uprightor not at all, and other tricks Ive picked up over the yearsbut still at the end of the day, a dry laid patio built with this sort of material will probably not be 100% wobble free at job completion. I dry laid the flagstone (on a 4-inch compacted base of 5/8th minus gravel with a 1 inch layer of 1/4 minus gravel that the stone was set on top of). The price does vary from store to store and from region to region. Yes, concrete can be poured on pea gravel, but it is important to make sure that the gravel is properly prepared. Weed and ant proof. Thanks! If theres a concrete foundation, then sure. Ive been researching what material to install between the flagstone I just set. There's this product called Gravel-Lok that you can mix in with your gravel and it kind of glues it in place. It makes me crazy because when it rains or the wind blows, it seems to go everywhere. Sure, but not forever. Other solutions, please? As far as installing it over pea gravel it shouldnt be a problem as long as u have the required depth of polymeric (again check bag/box) 2. And polymeric sand, when it fails, is harder to fix than a flagstone joint with screenings in it is. Thanks! I like this idea but they are quite an expensive solution to fix this $32 load of gravel 2. Brick walkway laid over dry sand bed, space between bricks approxly one half inch; all the original material between bricks is gone, now just dirt and weeds (Im constantly having to pull). It did say that clean up was with ammonia, so isit stray cat proof? Polymeric sand makes people think that they can cheat, that they can get away with wider joints than they would otherwise. It consists of small, rounded stones and is commonly used for high-traffic areas due to its smooth finish. What I do is I sweep stone dust/screenings in-between the flagstones, filling the joints until the stone dust is even with the top of the flagstone then I hose it down and off. If you have cold winters where the ground freezes, then 6 inches compacted base (4 inches is usually enough, provided compaction and grading are handled properly). Through the washing, exposed some cracks between the pavers. Have you seen this water proofing used before to settle the quarry dust? My front walk is flag stone set in concrete. Get some cement , not sand mix or concrete . The 10-in. Send photos and info to devin@devineescapes.com. This is professional advice, written by dedicated a stone mason/passionate stone artist with over 25 years experience. didn't think far enough on this one. Id remove the polymeric sand and replace with decomposed granite, stone dust, 1/4 minus/whatever they call it in your area. Is there a means to just patch the cracks? Check out http://www.stepables.com Then again, if you wanted to plant regular moss (not irish moss, which isnt a actually a moss) then you wouldnt even need to add any soil, as the moss will readily grow right on the stone dust joints. Come to think of it, one of the private residences in Colonial Williamsburg has a stabilized pea gravel front walk. What is the best order to correct an incompleted project gone awry? You never joint with mortar in a dry laid scenario. Okay, so Ive never seen decomposed granite sold anywhere in south eastern PAand I lived in Montgomery County for years. Specifically, decomposed granite aka decomposed granite screenings is crushed stone, made from granite. Thx, I do phone/email consultations for $93 an hour. The end result is a firm walking surface which is also permeable, allowing water to pass through. If you are building a dry stone patio then no, I do not recommend using a concrete border. And finally, since this is a site specific question, Ill remind you that I do offer personal DIY flagstone help. But maybe some minor irregularity of the pitch and/or grading around the patio caused water to heavily move through one area. Video of the Day. Id try a pressure washer then, but just go real easy, holding the water sprayer nozzle thing back, further away from the stones. Any ideas? but no sand. Sorry. 903 landscape supply is the place: https://www.903inc.com/. Chances are, they used a grout bag and soupy mortar mix.or just tuck pointed with somewhat wet mortar and didnt clean it up sufficiently while it was wet. Do you use cold chisels or is a hammer enough? I hope you are happy with the final product! Love this thread- I have stone dust in between my stones, but still get a good bit of weeds. One of the beautiful things about dry laid patios is that the foundation can withstand freeze and thaw without cracking like concrete will. And 1 of dg layering level? Seen it before and everyones gift is unique. Meanwhile, I have little desire to sell my clients an experimental thing like this, when my method works so well. http://www.stepables.com/ stepables . Its kind of silly but often people have screenings/breeze/DG all over their flagstones for the simple reason that they insisted on filling the joints in between the stones all the way to the tippy top. Science demands this of me. Offering consultation services has really made things easier on meI used to get emails, phone calls and even text messages from random people looking for free advice. And yes, I do prefer tighter joints, but dg should work for 2 joints. "I have learned so much thanks to the searchable articles on the FHB website. Personally, Id try it if I had some d-limonene lying around. great article. The first thing I want to do is find a way to make it less sloped. This second method doesnt clean up quite as easily as the powdery-dry method. Im in the process of laying flagstone over an existing sidewalk. Its liquid plastic, alright. Im glad we didnt go with polymeric sand! &When i say irregular, i mean irregular. You need a foundation of compacted road base gravel. One last question on screenings is this something Home Depot carries? If sowell, thats a whole nother question entirely. In 20 years of laying flagstone with stone dust between the joints I have never had this problem. Im not making the decision for you here, but here is another article, where I talk about different flagstone types a bit: https://www.devineescapes.com/what-type-of-flagstone-to-use-for-your-patio-or-stone-walkway/. Any garden center or landscape supply place should have what you are looking for. By dirt, you must mean soil. DG will work the same. Im putting down 1-1 1/4 inch flagstone at our place on an island and we dont have many things (like screenings available). Hey! A wire-brush plus a lot of elbow grease will often remove much of the hazewill rarely get it all though. This article might help a bit too: https://www.devineescapes.com/taking-care-of-your-patio/%. Thanks again for the great advice! I was hoping to find some neat product that we could add to the breeze or mix with it that would make it stable. Maybe a channel drain, along the wall furthest from the house? No one seems to be recommending DG or granite sand until you. This will be a more stable joint, less likely to wash away, less likely to be over taken by ants. If you leave the stone dust all the way filled to the top, its going to spill out and get everywhere. Deep bow of thanks for all of the wisdom youve shared here with your article and the comment section. The pea gravel is stable if it does not move when stepped upon and does not feel slippery. Just dont! It looks like the guy was pretty lazy/rushed when he laid it as there are numerous 3 or more spaces everywhere. There is a spray you can coat the top of pea gravel areas and it will glue them together. What do you suggest using in the joints of a Limestone walkway (in NY)? Just say no to polymeric jointing sand. Once it dries and hardens, the sand stays in place. If you just have sand in.and no road base gravelthen absolutely, take up the flagstone and do it all over. Google patio floor drain choose a decent looking one, read their instructions.Im available for consultations if you wish for individualized guidance on this project. Leave small joints, like 1/4. Use a leaf blower on a low setting to remove small bits of screenings that havent settled all the way in yet. All the flagstones should be lifted up, the sand replaced with screenings. Its a simple affair, really. Its 3/8 in size, and says with finesthats what you need. I find cleaning up the solids simple with a disposable glove and plastic bag. I cant and dont use Round-up type products, so thats a plus, but I also want to keep the structure stable and level as lots of kids run through the yard. Glad you found the article useful! Also, very impressive stone sculptures! If there are large areas, apply the binding solution in two or three coats. As long as were less than 1.5 inches or so, than its really not a problem. No offense, but if you went through all the trouble to lay your paver base in the first . Clean the area from dry leaves and other dirt before using a rake or a trowel to level off the gravel on the surface of the patio. Check it againrepeat until its wobble-free. Anywayssince you just used local soil, and built it yourself rather than hiring a mason, we can pretty much just say Well, it may not be perfect, but its got heart!. Sorry! Clean the joint of all dust and debri. The joint however stays put.now you have a hollow void, either underneath the stone, or just beneath the joint. Take it dry and rake it in with the pea gravel , you dont want too much cement sitting on top . Resulted in ugly haze. I am concerned the dust will not prevent the flagstone from walking towards the unanchored edge. I prefer smaller joints. Polymeric sand is not a good option for either sort of foundation. Im just kind of not liking going with the plain gray. Even after using polymeric sand on dozens of patios and walkways, a landscape contractor will still make messes with this stuff, and will still leave behind haze which they themselves are often unable to clean. Good luck! Maybe 6 yardS of 1/4 minus (decomposed granite is more expensive, just ask for 1/4 minus, or pathway fines). Cool, Im glad that worked out from youand Ill use those two flagstone photos, for next time someone asks a similar question. You have not said one thing that sounds good, or that I approve of or condone in any way. You are building a flagstone patiojust use stone. It was inspiring, insightful, knowledgeable and overall great advice. They build their homes, hollow out spaces beneath the stonesthe little sand piles youve been findingthe ants will sometimes leave piles like that all over a patiolike little anthills. Tamp the gravelor not. A metal edging or pt lumber border will look better than a plastic border.stone can be used. If you used protecting paper and tape or wood sticks, you can remove them. it will likely stay glued to itself.but the bricks or stone that it is set amongstthese will not be clean surfaces. If a project interests me I can be convinced to travel. Sweeping sand into the joints is one way to go about it.read the article, for other suggestions , Or, check out this great article here: https://www.devineescapes.com/flagstone-what-to-use-sand-cement-or-gravel/. Id just power wash the whole thing., some joint material may bust loose just from the water.Then Id take a large flathead screwdriver and start prying out joint material. A site visit could be arranged, if necessary. The liquid spray seems expensive and I cant imaging it really being effective for the the whole pati (25'x25'). Anyway, I suspect white screenings are going to be too white for what youre trying to match. Keep the joint material just shy of the tops of your stones, an eighth inch or quarter inch lowdo this, and your problem will be solved. I am a contractor working on a large home renovation project in Northern California. The best way to predict your future is to create it. Desperately need advice for how to improve curb appeal. My thought is to cut that mixture down 3 inches and put 1.5 inches of this shaker sand on top as my leveling material. If you want you can promote moss in the shady areaput some moss in the blender with old beer/buttermilk (perhaps this is what you mean by the yogurt method?) I would like to use something called a tumbled Colorado Red Stepper which is relatively small compared to other stones. Thanks! I just installed a natural stone patio and was researching poly sand for filling the cracks when I came across your article. However, if you are telling me that you have 6 of compacted road base type gravel in place, and your flagstones are on top of that, with some sand as the leveling agent..then idk, but as a professional who cant afford to have my reputation messed withId take those flagstones back up and lay in screenings. look at Landscaping Projects 2007, Favourite ROSES We Grow albums. -just planting grass in between the stone. I live just north of Philly (19046). Its been working for me. Where are you in PA? I had the poly sand removed and the quarry dust filled in its only been a week or so. I dont know if it would do any harm though, but it might. I found your article very interesting i was already going to use screenings but was still researching and i came accross this. To keep the decomposed granite out of the pool, my biggest piece of advice is to take time during installation. What if I use the yogurt method etc? Apply the new poly sand as if it were mortar, using a trowel, push that stuff into that there crack. Ive never seen any ratio of cement to stone dust/sand that works. I have a flagstone porch with flagstone stairs. Best,Aaron. If the flagstones were not getting slippery then I might suggest encouraging the Moss and just living with discolored flagstones and appreciating the Aged look. Irish moss, creeping thymeidk, what plant would be best for your local conditions. So I think you can get away with a 2 joint, if thats what youre into. Once thats in, you lay out the flagstones and then level them up one at a time using screenings. It appears that they ripped 2x 6 in half so that they had 1.5x 2-3/4 material. As mentioned in the article right above..I go with screenings. After only 2 months the patio has developed a cavity probably 12-18 deep with an oblong hole in the sand about 6 long. Theres a lot of different ways to go about getting a flagstone stable. They are basically pebbles that have both aesthetic and functional uses. Place the pea gravel on top of the concrete mix and level it out with the trowel. Make sure to take the proper steps when first installing the pea gravel. Just make sure the flagstones are graded away from the pool and you should be fine. But screenings are only used in dry laid application. What did I do wrong? Its an 8 long stone, so now its sitting 2 high. Spread sand over the surface of the concrete and pea gravel. Great article Devin. Are these two similar products? How should we address this issue? Great! Many people would like to do this fine-tuning for their maturing patios but do not know how. Calcium chloride or other salt substitute should be fine, but salt will deteriorate mortar. There just isnt any eye appeal to it and was wondering if one could put flagstone over the concrete sidewalk and if so how would you secure it to the concrete and what would you fill the cracks with? Not my favorite option, but not a huge problem so long as b) they fit the stones tight enough. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. I have been getting a lot of hate from basically contractors who don't want you to do your own work. I wanted something that would promote drainage and have a natural look. please reply with name of screening, where to buy and if method i am thinking is good. Remove organic matter from the driveway. Polymeric sand is indeed pretty good on these fronts.for the first year or 3. Each unit of our concrete block is approximately 3,000 lb in weight and 5' x 2'-5" x 2'-6" in dimensions. Maybe because its quick, easy, and the best practical solotion. Im in Tucson AZ and have a very large flagstone patio that is 15 yrs old and is showing many cracks in the mortar grout. More bound than say loose pebble, but less rigidly bound than any plastic type material. We enclosed the space under our south facing deck as a sun room, hoping to grow some flowers and/or veggies year round and also have a warm sunny place to hang out for three seasons. from what Im able to google on the matter, Im pretty sure 1/4 inch minus is graded properly to be used as a joint material. Its important to compact it thoroughly with a heavy-duty roller. Given how unpleasant it is to walk on screenings with bare feet, what would your suggestion be for spaces that are greater than 3? Theres other ways to deal with weeds, but this article is getting long. Come join the discussion about performance, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more! and pour the slurry atop the screenings to get the moss to grow there. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Might be able to spread it around and then water it with a sprinkler to activate its stickiness. The decomposed granite in the second link also looks right, but it will probably cost more. Love your artwork with stone. Stone dust getting kicked out of the joints may be a bit of a concernbut I would fill with stone dust, hose down, and then top it off. With the powdery dry mix you really need to push down hard with the trowel (its so dry a mix that you will not cause a problem by pushing down, firmly, theres pretty much no water to push to the surface)so its easier to goof up that method. Some people try and solve this problem with plastic edging. Anyone use this sand to firm up a stone driveway? Or, just fill the gap with road base gravel. Hose the joints down, on shower setting, sweep off the excess, if you want you can use blower to remove more excess stone dust. We just moved in a year ago. Other methods. Devin, What a great article. This will allow you to enjoy your stabilized pea gravel for years to come. Good luck! ", Here is a link that might be useful: Stabilizer Solution. Mind you, 2 is kind of thick for a stone dust bed and if youre joints are on the large side.and if you got an absurd amount of rain.but it still sounds funny to me. This can make the stone slippery and change its appearancewithout providing any benefit. The result might be messy, but would probably be a good base for something else (brick or stone?). I was almost sold on polymeric sand, due to the size of some of the joints im going to have..but read your blog. Easy to install. Thank you for the prompt response. Just power washed my patio of stone pavers. Good luck! Also, do you have any mortar that you prefer over another? When Im done, the joint material will be about a quarter inch from the tops of the stones. Thanks for the quick reply. test area because it may stain the flagstones too. I wound up reading your blog post on using poly in flagstone joints. Read the Instructions. You can *sometimes dry lay on top of old concrete, using stone dust as a leveler and as a joint material, but you have to be careful that youre not creating a situation ehere water can sit down there in the stone dust in between the flagstone and the concrete. Either way, best of luck to you on your flagstone repair! Can you help me understand the difference between decomposed granite and screenings? So the stones just didnt get seated properly. I have old flagstone with sand in between. Id make the stones fit well first (assuming that the polymeric sand users left big gaps like they usually do), with a half inch (or so) gap between the stones. You could a) hire a professional. I think I have seen bags of paver base or something like that. I addressed the issue of weeds and dry laid flagstone here As it states in the article, personally, weeds between flagstones dont bother me all that muchand if the weeds really are that bad, then a bit of boiling water will dispatch with them nicely. Im not sure what to do about the wasps so much maybe if you got the Moss firmly established it would stop looking like a good place for the wasps. Once the flagstones have all been cleaned and/or replaced, then return that polymeric sand, buy some stone dust.and send me photos of the completed job when you are done! Step 1 - Prepare the Patio Measure the area of your patio that contains the pea gravel, and use this measurement to order the correct amount of binding solution material needed. Best recommendation is to use large flagstone, small joints, stone dust/decomposed granite as the leveling agent and joint material. If its dry laid, then everything should be dry laidno cement based products. But what do you do if you need to fix cracking polymeric sand? Ochre stone is actually a byproduct of ochre mining, it's kind of like brown crusher run. Metal is more durable, but no matter what border you choose, it should be at least 1/2 inch above the ground outside the perimeter. Ive tried my best and I hope this helpseither helps you to confidently tackle the projector helps you to decide to just hire a good mason. Well, if the foundation and pitch all seem decent, then Id simply suggest removing the gator dust and replacing with stone dust. Since the stones fit back nicely into place, only the seal between the mortar and the stone has brokenI recommend using pl loctite premium: https://amzn.to/3z9FWTi They sell it at depot and lowes, in the caulk isle. Not familiar with that product. Didnt like the sound of the poly sand. Then the additional couple of truckloads of gravel, actual 3/4 minus, will bring the driveway up to 4 or 5 inches thick. Montana and Pennsylvania both have serious winters, that cause soils to heave and settle. 8-12 of compacted 21AA limestone (well compacted), decomposed granite and then filled the joints with decomposed granite. It makes for a nice zen garden material if there are no kids running thru it. Most of the patio is in a high sun area, so moss (which I love) is out of the question I think. Typical Time Required: Man Hours will vary according to volume of stone purchased, design and specifications. So glad I found your blog, almost as much as finding a buried 1220 flagstone patio in our backyard! Finally, Ill bring back the stones and level them (with screenings?) My issue with the concrete border is that the concrete may crack. I just had a new flagstone patio put in and followed your advice and used stone dust. Our monsoon rains also might wash it out. I like your views and outlook so poly is out and screenings are in.not very keen on chemicals where the barefoot grandson walks! Some are 10 years with no problems. Perhaps you could take a smaller piece of stone, create a mosaic up top of thatand use the resultant piece as a smaller paving stone, set on stone dust, among your dry laid flagstones. Like a branching sort of design or meandering stream-like pattern. What is the ideal size joint? Flagstones tend to be larger (2x3 or 3x3), mixed with some smaller units (1x1 or 1x3). Cement/Sand mixture mortar left behind a residue and markings on my outdoor patio stone and walkway. Thanks, I added your sculpture to my Facebook timeline nice work! The modal window is a 'site map' of the most critical areas of the site. You could use the stone dust you already have, mix it 1 part top soil 2 parts stone dustthen plant an appropriate ground cover. Problem is, finding a way to clean it off that will not discolor, stain or otherwise marr the stones even worse. Any saw cuts i then rough up, using the same hammer technique as in the video, in order to keep it natural loooking. Always spec and use 'sharp' sand. Please and thank you, Freddi. You can choose from various materials like plastic edging or metal borders. You can also use cement. Polymeric sand is no good. Thank you. Have you seen this used with travertine tile in an outdoor pool deck in Florida? The first option that I gave will not keep 100 percent of the gravel in placebut most of it, yesand if you remember to use modified gravel, gravel with smaller chips and stone dust in it, then it should feel pretty sturdy underfoot. Spread it all over and hosed it down into cracks. The screenings will generally stay put, once theyve been swept into place and hosed down real well. What I was wondering was if you could spray a water proofing like what is used on cement to settle the dust and smaller stones down and and keep them in place. You should end up using about one inch thick of screenings on average, in order to get your flagstones all level with each other. I have put 2"x4" around the border of the exercise yard to keep the gravel from migrating out of the enclosure. Do you think I should cement the tread on top of the cement riser? Psyllium husk joint binder is, as far as I can tell, a lot more natural than an acrylic based product. 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